[15][17] A request of 160 Fireflies were specified on 11 March 1945 for completion on April 30, with the Americans shipping suitable tanks from France back to England for conversion. This tank should be the supporting line in both offensive and defensive actions, providing flanking fire, long-range fire, or fast and accurate fire to the target while the heavy tanks take up the brunt of the defence. Also its hard to do research on a tank when you die every time you try to cap. Those familiar with an M4 Sherman control will pick up on this tank very easily; however unlike most Sherman variants, the Firefly does not equip any kind of stabilisation. The first trials were converting two M4A3 Shermans to fit American specifications like fitting their larger radios, adding stowage brackets for the M2 machine gun, and attachment of a M9 elevating quadrant on the gun cradle. Sherman IC "Trzyniec" of 2nd (Warsaw) Armoured Division. Videos featuring my skins may show up on Youtube or War Thunder Live, but they all link back to here. ohne offizielle Genehmigung entwickelt, wurde d… The Sherman VC Firefly is a Rank III British medium tank with a battle rating of 4.7 (AB/RB/SB). The Fireflies were also allocated to Canadian and Polish regiments. What's the difference? Unless the enemy's tank gunner has been knocked out (black only), cannon breech has been disabled (red/black), or cannon barrel is disabled (red/black) that inhibits the enemy's ability to fire back, don’t expose the tank after firing. I wish Gaijin would include sandbags for extra armour, or let us put the armour on (with restrictions of course) like the decals. Take a shot, preferably from a flanking location, then retreat into cover regardless of the shot's effect on a target, because if the target could swing its gun towards the Firefly, or have friends that could hit it, consider writing off the Firefly very soon. Sherman IC "Trzyniec" M4A3 (76) W ␗M4A1 (75) W M4A4. During this whole process, watch out for other enemy tanks and avoid being swarmed. Suspension wheels are 15 mm thick, bogies are 10 mm thick, and tracks are 20 mm thick. From the hedgerow of Normandy, France, to the hills of Italy and the plains of Netherlands, the Firefly was one of the few Allied tanks the Germans learned to fear… Among the most potent Allied conversion of the war, and certainly one of the deadliest version of the Sherman, it was a clever -although risky and improvised- move to try to keep up with the latest German tank developments. I put some "Eight balls" decals on my barrel to try and hide the length of it. [16] In the American's own program, it was advised that they try mounting the 17-pounder in the T23 turret made for the 76 mm gun, but also mounted on the T26 chassis. War Thunder 1/24 M4A3 Sherman IR 2.4 GHz. The muzzle brake sometimes came loose from an inadequate locking design, the traverse gear also failed at times due to the extra turret weight from the gun, rain leaked into the radio box on some tanks, internal space for the Firefly turret crew was comparatively cramped to the Sherman's, the muzzle flash at the gun's muzzle brake can obscure the target enough that it is difficult to ensure the firing round hit it, and muzzle flash on the breech end of the gun inside the turret has a tendency to cause a fair share of discomfort and uneasiness for the crew. The Firefly's were assigned an unusual role to, while on the LCT that would carry them to the beaches, would fire over the berm towards concrete fortifications and blast them with the 17-pdr. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. One of the most famous Sherman modifications in World War II, the Firefly introduces the potent 17-pounder anti-tank gun as the main armament of the Sherman platform, presenting a very drastic increase in firepower over the original 75 mm gun. Make sure to eliminate the enemy's ability to fire back by destroying their cannon breech and traverse gears, or knock out their driver and gunner again if they were replaced. One of the most famous Sherman modifications in World War II, the Firefly introduces the potent 17-pounder anti-tank gun as the main armament of the Sherman platfo… [3] One of the reasons why the 17-pounder was so effective was the use of the APDS shot (Armour-Piercing Discarding-Sabot), which could penetrate up to 256 mm of armour at 500 meters distance; this is due to the smaller, but much faster projectile used that contains more kinetic energy than a full-sized shot. It was decided on May 26[15] that these American Fireflies were to be retained in Europe for equipping the occupational force. That's why some Sherman Firefly crews started painting over their barrels to disguise them to look like normal Shermans with the less effective 75mm gun like this and this. I say trying because I can't get to your fat neck from here. However, sometime after Witheridge's arrival, the Department of Tank Design (DTD) sent a directive to the two lads to cease their development on the up-gunning of the Sherman, possibly to protect their A30 project. Like I'm sure I would still get lit the fuck up if I used that, but at least I'd feel sneaky. Art. Some of the deficiencies were fixed, such as the flashback at the breech end by implementing a delayed action breech on the 17-pounder Mk.VII model, but all these faults never diminished the popularity of the Firefly, highlighted by the statements of Field Marshall Bernard Montgomery that he wished to have Fireflies replace all types of Shermans in British service.[12]. War Thunder 1/24 M4A3 Sherman IR 2.4 GHz. He experimented around an acquired Sherman, though came to a conclusion that the turret size was too small for the 17-pounder's breech and recoil. On the onset, the Americans were not enthusiastic about the Firefly because they believed they had a comparable design in the 76 mm armed Shermans. 13. While A30 was in development, the prolonged development time had Tank Board set up for two more 17-pounder projects, the A34 (Comet) for a short term project and A41 (Centurion) for a long term one, in the summer of 1943. Torro. level 2 M4A3E2. Once reloaded, preferably pop out of an area different from the last firing position and take another shot. [15] This advice did not make much progress. Heeding the comments on how Fireflies were singled out for their long guns, there were attempts to hide the prominent gun barrels, ranging from deceptive paint schemes, camouflage, and even dummy barrels on the back of the Firefly turret that would be pointed forward to mimic the short 75 mm gun.[12]. Allocation of the Fireflies was one troop per three Sherman troop (troop was an equivalent of a platoon and consisted of 4 tanks), but even regiments that were equipped with Cromwells were supplemented with Fireflies until the A30 Challenger was fit for service. SPS-255 - "Special Purpose Sherman", a vehicle in the Unrealistic Battles April Fools event. [2] However, in the same year, a side project for a 17-pounder tank was conducted by two officers. At that BR the difference isn't all that big though. All Discussions Screenshots Artwork Broadcasts Videos News Guides Reviews War Thunder > General Discussions > Topic Details. The recoil and muzzle blast could be severely jarring to Firefly crews and the muzzle blast frequently caused night blindness as well. Today we’re going to unveil our first armoured vehicles of the British tech line which are going to appear in one of our incoming updates. The armoured box also had the benefit of acting as a counter-weight for the longer and heavier gun for the turret. Die bedeutendste Änderung wurde an der primären … In war you took every advantage you could get, it was about life and death. At that time, the “basic” M4 Sherman equipped the Allies almost exclusively, from the US to the British, Canadian, ANZACS, Fr… Priority soon shifted to develop a recoil system for the Sherman-mounted 17-pounder. 1.8k. During the war, Sherman Firefly with its 17 pdr posed a great threat to the german heavies and their distinctively long barrels meant that the Germans usually target them out first during combat. Ausgehend vom Design des US-amerikanischen M4 Sherman, führte der Einbau der QF 17-pounder-Panzerabwehrkanonezu einer britischen Modellvariante mit hoher Kampfkraft. Sherman VC Firefly располагается на III ранге исследования английской бронетехники и был добавлен в War Thunder в обновлении 1.55 "Королевская Броня". In the second part, tell the re The shermans all brew up pretty easily but the firefly is awful. Still, the Firefly served in the British Armies in the European Theater of Operations up to and until May 1945, when they were retired along with the end of the war for the replacement of better designs like the Comet cruiser tank and the Centurion tank. 1.8k. Posted by 4 days ago. I'm kind of surprised by how well that works. 13. However, drawbacks with this ammunition were the lack of tracer to adjust shots, the inaccuracy beyond 500 yards, and the less damage it could cause to the enemy tank.[4]. Around 1943 in World War II, the M4 Sherman was one of the best tanks in use by the Allies. Don’t expose the tank towards enemy fire too long due to the thin armour on the Firefly in comparison to other tanks such as the Russian T-34-85s and the Germans Panthers. Verfügbar werden die vier exklusiven Fahrzeuge A13 Mk.II Cruister, der Sherman Firefly Ic mit schlagkräftigem Hauptgeschütz, die Selbstfahrlafette M10 Achilles und der A43 Black Prince als Ausführung des Infanterie-Unterstützungspanzers Churchill. This variant, … On April 7th, the initial order was halved to 80 due to the incoming end of the war and its demand ending with the lack of encountered German armour after the Ardennes Offensive. Jul 26, 2019 @ 4:06am comet or sherman firefly which one should i get 1st? Sherman VC vs. Sherman Firefly? Royal Tank Regiment major George Brighty, based at the Royal Armoured Corps Gunnery School at Lulworth in Dorset, had the belief that the M4 Sherman was a better tank mount for the 17-pounder than the A30, which was being tested in Lulworth. The Firefly's performance was very favourable for the troops that had to use them against the heavy German tanks. Not that the American's own industries were making the situation easier for the British as when they discontinued their M4A4 Sherman and 75 mm gun production, there was a quick drop in Firefly conversions in the latter part of 1944 until they could supplement the production with enough Sherman I models. The tank is as mobile as the M4 Sherman, so picking up speed to get around the enemy is not hard. The right side of the turret has extra armour that is 88.9 mm thick.